panjandrum said: I mean, you MUST Beryllium pulling my leg on this one; I feel the racking pain in my knee-joint already. An Arabic version is ما جادلت عالما إلا وغلبته وما جادلت جاهلا إلا وغلبني ~ which if I understand well, means something like: I haven't debated with https://youtu.be/T0zWXvhEQwo?si=wNc6ihu97ShtIl7u